Squatting: Legal alternative suggested as Hulme's Hope Inn residents evicted

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By Barrie White & David Keane

After the squatters at Hulme’s Hope Inn were evicted last week, MM speaks to people who are involved in a very legal alternative.

The squatters moved on from the former Hyde’s Brewery pub on Wednesday just hours before bailiffs arrived to remove them.

However one Manchester businessman believes he provides a realistic alternative to squatting, both for those who squat and those whose properties are occupied.

Shane Cooper, Managing Partner for Minae Property Management, said: “Squatting seems to be coming increasingly rife in areas of Manchester all the time now. More and more, it is one of the main factors in people’s decision to take up services like ours or other forms of security.”

Mr Cooper specialises in finding property guardians – people who live at low cost in disused buildings.

The companies or individuals who own the buildings pay Minae to protect the premises, which are not always standard housing.

He currently has clients living in care homes, office blocks and whole housing estates across the North West.

One guardian, 35, only wanted to be named as Shaun B. He is from London, works in security and is a property Guardian in North Manchester. He has been living in a disused office space for six months now.

He described to MM what it was like to move in to one of these properties: “Change for anybody is a difficult thing. That feeling of it being surreal has gone now though. At first it does bother you, but it goes.

“If you meet a girl, and you say that you live in this building, then they’re going to say something but if I bring them here and show them the space, they’d rather be here than take them to a bedsit.”

COMFORTABLE: Shaun B in the disused office he has made his home

Mr Cooper was determined to underline the difference between squatting and the service his company provide.

He said: “It offends me if people refer to this as legalised squatting as it clearly isn’t. We have all the contracts in place, the owner has agreed to it and the guardians pay for where they stay.”

Minae’s property guardians have to be in full-time employment and provide proof of wage slips, as well as a reference from their employer.

The tenants also pay a small licence fee of around £35-60 a week, with contractual agreements in place to move them on should a client require the property again.

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And Mr Cooper also believes that squatters could use schemes like Minae as an alternative to squatting, and would even consider them to take on roles as a guardian with his company.

 “I would have to discuss it with them and take each case individually,” he said. “If they could demonstrate that they are law abiding, could pay each week and could prove they are in full time employment, I wouldn’t be against it in principle.

“But I would definitely want peace of mind. I have to trust a guardian.”

However Mr Cooper does not believe that squatters, like those who recently occupied the Hope Inn, would support what Minae do.

“I would suggest they disagree with what we do as we are charging people to live there,” he said.

“Our ultimate goal is to protect the premises.  I’m not so sure that their reason to live there is to protect the value of the asset, to protect the property.”

Rufus Stewart, a former Hope Inn squatter, was not aware that it was possible to be a property guardian in Manchester but had heard of the scheme in London.

When asked if he felt it was possible for people like himself to work with companies such as Minae, he said: “No, not really.  We don’t work through those channels.  We like to do our own DIY and things like that.  Maybe we could work with them but I’m not sure how.”

But guardian Shaun B thought that this may not be the case across the board with other squatters.

He said: “I’ve known a lot of squatters and the scene quite well.  It depends on the individuals. If they don’t want to live with that feeling of getting kicked out at any minute and if they are responsible, honest and want somewhere to live, then some may rather pay a little and not have that weight on their shoulders.”

LIKE HOME: Shaun B's bedroom in the North Manchester property is as cosy as any other

But Mr Cooper was keen to emphasise where businesses like his could play an important part in today’s economic climate. Primarily this is with property owners who do not want to see their properties left unoccupied and thus become run-down, but also with those for whom buying or renting property is not an option.

He said: “There are people going through messy divorces who really need something without a long term agreement and this is perfect for them. It is a valuable alternative that we are providing.”

Squatter

Make ends 'meat' - really? Also, if you are struggling for cash (which thousands and millions of others do as well) then I would hold fire on the boozing.
Not only does it cost you money, it also causes you to write silly, nonsensical comments.

Squatter boy:

Well your toilet paper must be pretty interesting as you are on here reading this enough.

The piece is obviously telling the relevant news that squatters are no longer occupying the pub in Hulme - which is news whether you like it or not.

It provides an unseen insight into a cheap alternative to renting, which could well be of interest to many people in your situation. How you still find it uninteresting is worrying. Using disused buildings when in times of need is understandable, but obviously you have no intention of ever paying your way in life if you insist on calling the alternatives to squatting 'toilet paper'.

The Back of My Toilet Paper Package is Still More Interesting

Just Saying. And yes, I am a squatter. I'm just trying to to find a way to make ends meat while completing my degree in Podiatry. I see a place not being utilized and I clean it up a bit and I don't see a problem in that. Managing Partner for Minae Property Management is just a watered down version of Blackwater or other "security firms". First squatters, next innocent Iraqis ... I'm drunk.

Sensationalist/Controversial comment

I agree with you both completely- this is not a sensationalist story, rather a factual piece about a genuine, legal alternative to a problem within our city, one which often costs property owners (sometimes the councils and therefore, those of us who pay taxes) a fortune in repairs when the squatters move on.

Mr Cooper seems to be providing a legal and alternative solution that benefits us all, whether directly as the landlord/tenant or indirectly through savings in our Council Tax. Just wish I'd thought of it as it seems there's money to be made there.

Is it too much to hope that our lovely Manchester Council have adopted this system for their empty properties instead of paying through the nose for security etc?

Controversial comment?

Never knew that I could rent somewhere so cheap. Now I feel like I'm getting ripped off where I'm at - I want to move into an abandoned school!

As for the comments about 'sensationalism': grow up.

The first squatter story Bazza did is sensationalist, but this clearly isn't. Methinks you're a cheapy squatter yourself, so go play another record!

Sensationalist?

If you think this is sensationalistic then perhaps you have spent too much time reading the back of your toilet paper packaging.
I am pretty sure the people we should be praising are Barrie and David as they have shed light on an issue we all like to talk about but know little about.
Why don't you read the article properly then think before going near a keyboard?

It would be

A Crap Stories Belt. And if you read the story you'd spot that this is about people who don't want to live in a real house but in cheap alternative accomodation.

Hardly sensationalist but if you like using caps lock on a computer, good luck to you.

The Back of My Toilet Paper Package is More Interesting ...

Barrie White. You are becoming a more and more proficient student of "Yellow Journalism". A couple more sensationalistic articles and you'll have gained quite a few notches on your "Belt of Crap Stories". Based on the pictures you took for this article, I think another job that would be great for you is THE GUY WHO TAKES THE INDOOR PICTURES OF HOUSES FOR REAL ESTATE AGENTS.

Haha

Don't worry, Mr White shall be covering new things shortly. It was only fair to do a follow-up piece since they have now left.

Barrie needs...

something else to write about

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